Quick answer
- Winner
- Atlanta Falcons
- Final score
- Atlanta Falcons 30–28 Seattle Seahawks
- Halftime
- Seattle Seahawks 0–20 Atlanta Falcons at halftime
- FantasyHQ MVP
- Russell Wilson
- Top passer
- Russell Wilson
- Biggest EPA play
- (6:03) (Shotgun) 24-M.Lynch left tackle to ATL 39 for 11 yards (56-S.Weatherspoon). FUMBLE…
- Game date
- 2013-01-13
Game summary
The Atlanta Falcons beat the Seattle Seahawks 30–28 on 2013-01-13. Russell Wilson posted a game-high +23.29 total EPA in the passing.
The highest-scoring period was Q4 with 24 combined points.
Line score
Final score and points by quarter.
| Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | — | T | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
 Seattle Seahawks | 0 | 0 | 7 | 21 | 0 | 28 |
 Atlanta Falcons | 10 | 10 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 30 |
Scoring Map
Each pin marks where a score occurred on the field — yard line from play-by-play.
SEASeattle Seahawks
(9:44) 3-M.Bryant 39 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
(3:12) 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 2-M.Ryan pass short left to 88-T.Gonzalez for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
(9:17) 3-M.Bryant 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
(4:23) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass deep middle to 84-R.White for 47 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld.
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
(9:53) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep left to 81-G.Tate for 29 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
(2:11) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short middle to 44-J.Snelling for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. PENALTY on SEA-25-R.Sherman, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced between downs.
(13:06) 3-R.Wilson scrambles left end for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
(9:19) 3-R.Wilson pass short left to 86-Z.Miller for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
(:34) 24-M.Lynch right guard for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld.
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
(:13) 71-K.Biermann and 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 3-M.Bryant 49 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
ATLAtlanta FalconsFantasyHQ Analytics
Scoring timeline
Chronological scoring plays — scroll to follow the game.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q1 9:44FG Myles BryantPoints+3
- Yard line
- SEA 21
- Score
- 0-3
(9:44) 3-M.Bryant 39 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q1 3:12TD TGT. GonzalezPoints+6
- Yard line
- SEA 1
- Score
- 0-9
(3:12) 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 2-M.Ryan pass short left to 88-T.Gonzalez for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q1 3:10XP Myles BryantPoints+1
- Yard line
- SEA 2
- Score
- 0-10
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q2 9:17FG Myles BryantPoints+3
- Yard line
- SEA 19
- Score
- 0-13
(9:17) 3-M.Bryant 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q2 4:23TD Ricky White IIIPoints+6
- Yard line
- SEA 47
- Score
- 0-19
(4:23) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass deep middle to 84-R.White for 47 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q2 4:16XP Myles BryantPoints+1
- Yard line
- SEA 2
- Score
- 0-20
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q3 9:53TD GTG. TatePoints+6
- Yard line
- ATL 29
- Score
- 6-20
(9:53) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep left to 81-G.Tate for 29 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q3 9:47XP RLR. LongwellPoints+1
- Yard line
- ATL 2
- Score
- 7-20
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q3 2:11TD JSJ. SnellingPoints+6
- Yard line
- SEA 5
- Score
- 7-26
(2:11) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short middle to 44-J.Snelling for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q3 2:11XP Myles BryantPoints+1
- Yard line
- SEA 2
- Score
- 7-27
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. PENALTY on SEA-25-R.Sherman, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced between downs.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q4 13:06TD Russell WilsonPoints+6
- Yard line
- ATL 1
- Score
- 13-27
(13:06) 3-R.Wilson scrambles left end for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q4 13:01XP RLR. LongwellPoints+1
- Yard line
- ATL 2
- Score
- 14-27
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q4 9:19TD ZMZ. MillerPoints+6
- Yard line
- ATL 3
- Score
- 20-27
(9:19) 3-R.Wilson pass short left to 86-Z.Miller for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q4 9:13XP RLR. LongwellPoints+1
- Yard line
- ATL 2
- Score
- 21-27
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q4 0:34TD MLM. LynchPoints+6
- Yard line
- ATL 2
- Score
- 27-27
(:34) 24-M.Lynch right guard for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld.
- SEASeattle Seahawks
Q4 0:31XP RLR. LongwellPoints+1
- Yard line
- ATL 2
- Score
- 28-27
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.
- ATLAtlanta Falcons
Q4 0:13FG Myles BryantPoints+3
- Yard line
- SEA 31
- Score
- 28-30
(:13) 71-K.Biermann and 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 3-M.Bryant 49 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
Stars of the game
Top performers by total expected points added (EPA).
- 1Russell Wilson · Seattle Seahawks · Passing · +23.29 total EPA · 44 snaps · +0.53 EPA/play
- 2Z. Miller · Seattle Seahawks · Receiving · +11.40 total EPA · 9 snaps · +1.27 EPA/play
- 3Matt Ryan · Atlanta Falcons · Passing · +8.56 total EPA · 37 snaps · +0.23 EPA/play
- 4G. Tate · Seattle Seahawks · Receiving · +5.95 total EPA · 8 snaps · +0.74 EPA/play
- 5
Malik Turner · Atlanta Falcons · Rushing · +5.68 total EPA · 14 snaps · +0.41 EPA/play - 6M. Lynch · Seattle Seahawks · Receiving · +3.82 total EPA · 3 snaps · +1.27 EPA/play
- 7R. Turbin · Seattle Seahawks · Receiving · +2.28 total EPA · 3 snaps · +0.76 EPA/play
- 8
Justin Jones · Atlanta Falcons · Receiving · +2.12 total EPA · 10 snaps · +0.21 EPA/play
FantasyHQ Game MVP
Highest total EPA with the player's top snap and the game's biggest single play when different.
FantasyHQ Game MVP
Russell Wilson — SEA · Passing
Russell Wilson posted the highest total EPA (+23.29) in the game, the strongest overall impact for Seattle Seahawks. Across 44 counted snaps, they averaged +0.53 EPA per play.
Russell Wilson's top snap (+3.04 EPA): (9:53) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep left to 81-G.Tate for 29 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
Biggest single play (-4.64 EPA): M. Lynch — (6:03) (Shotgun) 24-M.Lynch left tackle to ATL 39 for 11 yards (56-S.Weatherspoon). FUMBLES (56-S.Weatherspoon), RECOVERED by ATL-95-J.Babineaux at ATL 39.
Quarterback report card
Russell Wilson led all passers in efficiency for Seattle Seahawks, setting the tone in the passing game according to FantasyHQ analytics.
- Russell Wilson (Seattle Seahawks) · 44 dropbacks · 54.5% completion · +8.4% CPOE · +0.53 EPA/play · +23.29 total EPA
- Matt Ryan (Atlanta Falcons) · 37 dropbacks · 64.9% completion · +9.3% CPOE · +0.23 EPA/play · +8.56 total EPA
Team stats comparison
Side-by-side offensive and defensive efficiency.
| Stat | Seattle Seahawks | Atlanta Falcons |
|---|---|---|
| Offensive EPA/play | +0.147 | +0.156 |
| Offensive success rate | 53.6% | 50.6% |
| Pass EPA/play | +0.529 | +0.231 |
| Rush EPA/play | -0.415 | +0.183 |
| Defensive EPA/play | -0.156 | -0.147 |
| Defensive success rate | 49.4% | 46.4% |
Drive & efficiency notes
Both offenses finished within striking distance on EPA per play (Seattle Seahawks +0.15, Atlanta Falcons +0.16) — a true toss-up on the analytics sheet.
Season benchmark context (offensive EPA per play):
- Seattle Seahawks: +0.15 EPA/play (81st percentile vs. 2012 team-game averages)
- Atlanta Falcons: +0.16 EPA/play (83rd percentile vs. 2012 team-game averages)
- Atlanta Falcons: 11 drives, +12.32 total EPA, 6 scoring drives
- Seattle Seahawks: 11 drives, +12.34 total EPA, 4 scoring drives
Who scored touchdowns and field goals
Every touchdown and field goal from official play-by-play.
Touchdowns
- Atlanta Falcons — T. Gonzalez (Matt Ryan pass)
- Atlanta Falcons — Ricky White III (Matt Ryan pass)
- Seattle Seahawks — G. Tate (Russell Wilson pass)
- Atlanta Falcons — J. Snelling (Matt Ryan pass)
- Seattle Seahawks — Russell Wilson
- Seattle Seahawks — Z. Miller (Russell Wilson pass)
- Seattle Seahawks — M. Lynch
Field goals
- Atlanta Falcons — Myles Bryant
- Atlanta Falcons — Myles Bryant
- Atlanta Falcons — Myles Bryant
Quarter by quarter
Quarter-by-quarter recap from live scoring plays.
The opening quarter: Atlanta Falcons won the period 10–0. Atlanta Falcons connected on a field goal from the SEA 21 (Q1 9:44) — (9:44) 3-M.Bryant 39 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.; Atlanta Falcons found the end zone from the SEA 1 (Q1 3:12) — (3:12) 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 2-M.Ryan pass short left to 88-T.Gonzalez for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.; Atlanta Falcons added 1 points from the SEA 2 (Q1 3:10) — 3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher..
The second quarter: Atlanta Falcons won the period 10–0. Atlanta Falcons connected on a field goal from the SEA 19 (Q2 9:17) — (9:17) 3-M.Bryant 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.; Atlanta Falcons found the end zone from the SEA 47 (Q2 4:23); Atlanta Falcons added 1 points from the SEA 2 (Q2 4:16) — 3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher..
The third quarter: The quarter finished even at 7–7. Seattle Seahawks found the end zone from the ATL 29 (Q3 9:53) — (9:53) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep left to 81-G.Tate for 29 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Seattle Seahawks added 1 points from the ATL 2 (Q3 9:47) — 7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.; Atlanta Falcons found the end zone from the SEA 5 (Q3 2:11) — (2:11) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short middle to 44-J.Snelling for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Atlanta Falcons added 1 points from the SEA 2 (Q3 2:11).
The fourth quarter: Seattle Seahawks won the period 21–3. Seattle Seahawks found the end zone from the ATL 1 (Q4 13:06) — (13:06) 3-R.Wilson scrambles left end for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.; Seattle Seahawks added 1 points from the ATL 2 (Q4 13:01) — 7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.; Seattle Seahawks found the end zone from the ATL 3 (Q4 9:19) — (9:19) 3-R.Wilson pass short left to 86-Z.Miller for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Seattle Seahawks added 1 points from the ATL 2 (Q4 9:13) — 7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.; Seattle Seahawks found the end zone from the ATL 2 (Q4 0:34); Seattle Seahawks added 1 points from the ATL 2 (Q4 0:31) — 7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan.; Atlanta Falcons connected on a field goal from the SEA 31 (Q4 0:13) — (:13) 71-K.Biermann and 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 3-M.Bryant 49 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher..
Turning points
Plays that moved win probability the most.
- Seattle Seahawks (Q4 0:02) — (:02) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep right intended for 89-D.Baldwin INTERCEPTED by 11-J.Jones at ATL 0. Touchback.
- Seattle Seahawks (Q4 0:44) — (:44) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass short left to 24-M.Lynch pushed ob at ATL 3 for 24 yards (24-C.Hope).
- Atlanta Falcons (Q4 0:13) — (:13) 71-K.Biermann and 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 3-M.Bryant 49 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
- Atlanta Falcons (Q4 0:19) — (:19) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short right to 88-T.Gonzalez to SEA 31 for 19 yards (29-E.Thomas).
- Seattle Seahawks (Q1 6:03) — (6:03) (Shotgun) 24-M.Lynch left tackle to ATL 39 for 11 yards (56-S.Weatherspoon). FUMBLES (56-S.Weatherspoon), RECOVERED by ATL-95-J.Babineaux at ATL 39.
Impact plays
Highest EPA snaps that flipped field position.
- Seattle Seahawks (Q1 6:03) — (6:03) (Shotgun) 24-M.Lynch left tackle to ATL 39 for 11 yards (56-S.Weatherspoon). FUMBLES (56-S.Weatherspoon), RECOVERED by ATL-95-J.Babineaux at ATL 39.
- Atlanta Falcons (Q2 4:23) — (4:23) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass deep middle to 84-R.White for 47 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld.
- Seattle Seahawks (Q2 5:38) — (5:38) 26-M.Robinson right guard to ATL 12 for -1 yards (25-W.Moore).
- Atlanta Falcons (Q1 6:58) — (6:58) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short middle intended for 88-T.Gonzalez INTERCEPTED by 54-B.Wagner [23-M.Trufant] at SEA 29. 54-B.Wagner to SEA 33 for 4 yards (84-R.White).
Every scoring play
Chronological scoring with play-by-play context.
- Atlanta Falcons FG (+3) — Q1 9:44 · SEA 21 · Score 0-3
(9:44) 3-M.Bryant 39 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. - Atlanta Falcons TD (+6) — Q1 3:12 · SEA 1 · Score 0-9
(3:12) 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 2-M.Ryan pass short left to 88-T.Gonzalez for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. - Atlanta Falcons XP (+1) — Q1 3:10 · SEA 2 · Score 0-10
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. - Atlanta Falcons FG (+3) — Q2 9:17 · SEA 19 · Score 0-13
(9:17) 3-M.Bryant 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. - Atlanta Falcons TD (+6) — Q2 4:23 · SEA 47 · Score 0-19
(4:23) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass deep middle to 84-R.White for 47 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld. - Atlanta Falcons XP (+1) — Q2 4:16 · SEA 2 · Score 0-20
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. - Seattle Seahawks TD (+6) — Q3 9:53 · ATL 29 · Score 6-20
(9:53) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep left to 81-G.Tate for 29 yards, TOUCHDOWN. - Seattle Seahawks XP (+1) — Q3 9:47 · ATL 2 · Score 7-20
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan. - Atlanta Falcons TD (+6) — Q3 2:11 · SEA 5 · Score 7-26
(2:11) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan pass short middle to 44-J.Snelling for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN. - Atlanta Falcons XP (+1) — Q3 2:11 · SEA 2 · Score 7-27
3-M.Bryant extra point is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher. PENALTY on SEA-25-R.Sherman, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced between downs. - Seattle Seahawks TD (+6) — Q4 13:06 · ATL 1 · Score 13-27
(13:06) 3-R.Wilson scrambles left end for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. - Seattle Seahawks XP (+1) — Q4 13:01 · ATL 2 · Score 14-27
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan. - Seattle Seahawks TD (+6) — Q4 9:19 · ATL 3 · Score 20-27
(9:19) 3-R.Wilson pass short left to 86-Z.Miller for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. - Seattle Seahawks XP (+1) — Q4 9:13 · ATL 2 · Score 21-27
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan. - Seattle Seahawks TD (+6) — Q4 0:34 · ATL 2 · Score 27-27
(:34) 24-M.Lynch right guard for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld. - Seattle Seahawks XP (+1) — Q4 0:31 · ATL 2 · Score 28-27
7-R.Longwell extra point is GOOD, Center-49-C.Gresham, Holder-9-J.Ryan. - Atlanta Falcons FG (+3) — Q4 0:13 · SEA 31 · Score 28-30
(:13) 71-K.Biermann and 79-M.Johnson reported in as eligible. 3-M.Bryant 49 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-47-J.Harris, Holder-5-M.Bosher.
Key takeaways
What to remember for fantasy research and follow-up box score digging.
- Atlanta Falcons earned the result — use the box score for snap-level context.
- One-score margin — verify garbage-time stats before drawing fantasy conclusions.
- Russell Wilson (Seattle Seahawks) led total EPA — start here for highlight and prop research.
- Russell Wilson (SEA) finished above expected through the air (positive CPOE).
Frequently asked questions
Who won Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons on 2013-01-13?
The Atlanta Falcons beat the Seattle Seahawks 30-28 in Wild Card, 2012.
What was the score by quarter in Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons?
Q1: Seattle Seahawks 0, Atlanta Falcons 10; Q2: Seattle Seahawks 0, Atlanta Falcons 10; Q3: Seattle Seahawks 7, Atlanta Falcons 7; Q4: Seattle Seahawks 21, Atlanta Falcons 3; Final: Seattle Seahawks 28, Atlanta Falcons 30.
Who scored touchdowns and field goals in Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons?
Atlanta Falcons touchdown — T. Gonzalez (M. Ryan pass) (Q1 3:12) Atlanta Falcons touchdown — R. White (M. Ryan pass) (Q2 4:23) Seattle Seahawks touchdown — G. Tate (R. Wilson pass) (Q3 9:53) Atlanta Falcons touchdown — J. Snelling (M. Ryan pass) (Q3 2:11) Seattle Seahawks touchdown — R. Wilson (Q4 13:06) Seattle Seahawks touchdown — Z. Miller (R. Wilson pass) (Q4 9:19) Seattle Seahawks touchdown — M. Lynch (Q4 0:34) Atlanta Falcons field goal — M. Bryant (Q1 9:44, 3 pts) Atlanta Falcons field goal — M. Bryant (Q2 9:17, 3 pts) Atlanta Falcons field goal — M. Bryant (Q4 0:13, 3 pts) Extra points followed each touchdown unless noted in the play-by-play.
How did the quarterbacks play in Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons?
Russell Wilson (Seattle Seahawks), 54.5% completion, +8.4% CPOE, +0.53 EPA per dropback, +23.29 total passing EPA. Matt Ryan (Atlanta Falcons), 64.9% completion, +9.3% CPOE, +0.23 EPA per dropback, +8.56 total passing EPA.
Who was FantasyHQ's player of the game in Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons?
Russell Wilson (Seattle Seahawks) was FantasyHQ's Game MVP with +23.29 total EPA on Passing plays. across 44 snaps. Their top snap (+3.04 EPA): (9:53) (Shotgun) 3-R.Wilson pass deep left to 81-G.Tate for 29 yards, TOUCHDOWN..
Was Seattle Seahawks vs Atlanta Falcons a close game?
Yes — the margin was 2 points. Atlanta Falcons won 30-28 in a game that came down to the wire.
Season records after this game
Seattle Seahawks
Entered 12-5 Now 12-6 L
Atlanta Falcons
Entered 13-3 Now 14-3 W
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