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NFL · Week 16 · December 20, 2003 · 12 min read

Atlanta Falcons vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 2003 Week 16 Recap

Falcons defeat Buccaneers 30–28 in Week 16

K.McCardell led Fantasy Impact as Falcons prevailed in a 30–28 Week 16 finish.

Atlanta Falcons 30 4–11 Winner
Final 30–28
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 28 7–8
Winner
Atlanta Falcons
Final score
30–28
Halftime
Atlanta Falcons 27–7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Top passer
Buddy Johnson
FantasyHQ MVP
K.McCardell
Game date
December 20, 2003

Top fantasy performers · Falcons

  • M.Vick 8/15 · 119 YDS · 2 TD +7.4 Fantasy Impact
  • P.Price 4 REC · 76 YDS +6.8 Fantasy Impact
  • B.Finneran 1 REC · 13 YDS · 1 TD +3.2 Fantasy Impact

Top fantasy performers · Buccaneers

  • K.McCardell 6 REC · 122 YDS · 1 TD +10.7 Fantasy Impact
  • C.Lee 10 REC · 88 YDS · 1 TD +10.1 Fantasy Impact
  • Michael Pittman
    Michael Pittman 9 REC · 85 YDS +3.8 Fantasy Impact

Quick answer

Winner
Atlanta Falcons
Final score
Atlanta Falcons 30–28 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Halftime
Atlanta Falcons 27–7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers at halftime
FantasyHQ MVP
K. McCardell
Top passer
Buddy Johnson
Biggest EPA play
(1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.B…
Game date
2003-12-20

Game summary

The Atlanta Falcons beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 30–28 on 2003-12-20. K. McCardell posted a game-high +10.73 total EPA in the receiving.

The highest-scoring period was Q2 with 24 combined points.

Line score

Final score and points by quarter.

Q1Q2Q3Q4T
Atlanta Falcons101730030
Tampa Bay Buccaneers07021028

Scoring Map

Each pin marks where a score occurred on the field — yard line from play-by-play.

ATLAtlanta Falcons
TBTampa Bay Buccaneers

FantasyHQ Analytics

Scoring timeline

16 scores

Chronological scoring plays — scroll to follow the game.

  1. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q1 9:41FG
    JFJ. Feely

    Points+3

    Yard line
    TB 8
    Score
    3-0

    (9:41) 4-J.Feely 26 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.

  2. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q1 0:49TD
    ACA. Crumpler

    Points+6

    Yard line
    TB 6
    Score
    9-0

    (:49) 7-M.Vick pass to 83-A.Crumpler for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

  3. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q1 0:44XP
    JFJ. Feely

    Points+1

    Yard line
    TB 2
    Score
    10-0

    4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.

  4. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q2 6:39TD
    RDR. Dudley

    Points+6

    Yard line
    ATL 3
    Score
    10-6

    (6:39) 14-B.Johnson pass to 88-R.Dudley for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

  5. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q2 6:35XP
    MGM. Gramatica

    Points+1

    Yard line
    ATL 2
    Score
    10-7

    7-M.Gramatica extra point is GOOD, Center-66-R.Benjamin, Holder-9-T.Tupa.

  6. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q2 2:00TD
    BFB. Finneran

    Points+6

    Yard line
    TB 13
    Score
    16-7

    (2:00) 7-M.Vick pass to 86-B.Finneran for 13 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

  7. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q2 1:53XP
    JFJ. Feely

    Points+1

    Yard line
    TB 2
    Score
    17-7

    4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.

  8. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q2 1:13TD
    JBJ. Bolden

    Points+6

    Yard line
    ATL 64
    Score
    23-7

    (1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.Bolden for 41 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

  9. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q2 1:01XP
    JFJ. Feely

    Points+1

    Yard line
    TB 2
    Score
    24-7

    4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.

  10. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q2 0:03FG
    JFJ. Feely

    Points+3

    Yard line
    TB 20
    Score
    27-7

    (:03) 4-J.Feely 38 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.

  11. ATLAtlanta Falcons
    Q3 3:53FG
    JFJ. Feely

    Points+3

    Yard line
    TB 19
    Score
    30-7

    (3:53) 4-J.Feely 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.

  12. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q4 11:33TD
    CLC. Lee

    Points+6

    Yard line
    ATL 3
    Score
    30-13

    (11:33) 14-B.Johnson pass to 82-C.Lee for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. quick look in

  13. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q4 11:27XP
    MGM. Gramatica

    Points+1

    Yard line
    ATL 2
    Score
    30-14

    7-M.Gramatica extra point is GOOD, Center-66-R.Benjamin, Holder-9-T.Tupa.

  14. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q4 2:31TD
    KMK. McCardell

    Points+6

    Yard line
    ATL 76
    Score
    30-20

    (2:31) 14-B.Johnson pass to 87-K.McCardell for 76 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

  15. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q4 2:20Safety
    Buddy Johnson

    Points+2

    Yard line
    ATL 2
    Score
    30-22

    TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 14-B.Johnson pass to 86-K.Williams is complete. ATTEMPT SUCCEEDS.

  16. TBTampa Bay Buccaneers
    Q4 0:34TD
    James Cook III

    Points+6

    Yard line
    ATL 11
    Score
    30-28

    (:34) 14-B.Johnson pass to 43-J.Cook for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Stars of the game

Top performers by total expected points added (EPA).

  1. 1K. McCardell · Tampa Bay Buccaneers · Receiving · +10.73 total EPA · 6 snaps · +1.79 EPA/play
  2. 2C. Lee · Tampa Bay Buccaneers · Receiving · +10.09 total EPA · 11 snaps · +0.92 EPA/play
  3. 3M. Vick · Atlanta Falcons · Passing · +7.40 total EPA · 15 snaps · +0.49 EPA/play
  4. 4P. Price · Atlanta Falcons · Receiving · +6.78 total EPA · 4 snaps · +1.70 EPA/play
  5. 5Michael PittmanMichael Pittman · Tampa Bay Buccaneers · Receiving · +3.82 total EPA · 9 snaps · +0.42 EPA/play
  6. 6James Cook IIIJames Cook III · Tampa Bay Buccaneers · Receiving · +3.54 total EPA · 2 snaps · +1.77 EPA/play
  7. 7M. Vick · Atlanta Falcons · Rushing · +3.52 total EPA · 12 snaps · +0.29 EPA/play
  8. 8Buddy JohnsonBuddy Johnson · Tampa Bay Buccaneers · Passing · +3.21 total EPA · 52 snaps · +0.06 EPA/play

FantasyHQ Game MVP

Highest total EPA with the player's top snap and the game's biggest single play when different.

FantasyHQ Game MVP

K. McCardell — TB · Receiving

K. McCardell posted the highest total EPA (+10.73) in the game, the strongest overall impact for Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Across 6 counted snaps, they averaged +1.79 EPA per play.

K. McCardell's top snap (-6.98 EPA): (1:45) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 87-K.McCardell INTERCEPTED by 53-K.Newman at TB 41. 53-K.Newman to TB 12 for 29 yards (67-K.Walker). PENALTY on TB-87-K.McCardell, Unnecessary Roughness, 6 yards, enforced at TB 12.

Biggest single play (-7.99 EPA): Buddy Johnson — (1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.Bolden for 41 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Quarterback report card

Buddy Johnson led all passers in efficiency for Tampa Bay Buccaneers, setting the tone in the passing game according to FantasyHQ analytics.

  • Buddy JohnsonBuddy Johnson (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) · 52 dropbacks · 65.4% completion · +0.06 EPA/play · +3.21 total EPA
  • M. Vick (Atlanta Falcons) · 15 dropbacks · 53.3% completion · +0.49 EPA/play · +7.40 total EPA

Team stats comparison

Side-by-side offensive and defensive efficiency.

StatAtlanta FalconsTampa Bay Buccaneers
Offensive EPA/play+0.121+0.042
Offensive success rate51.4%52.9%
Pass EPA/play+0.410+0.050
Rush EPA/play-0.147+0.005
Defensive EPA/play-0.042-0.121
Defensive success rate47.1%48.6%

Drive & efficiency notes

Despite the final score, Atlanta Falcons generated the better offensive EPA per play (+0.12 vs +0.04), suggesting they moved the ball more efficiently.

Season benchmark context (offensive EPA per play):

  • Atlanta Falcons: +0.12 EPA/play (82nd percentile vs. 2003 team-game averages)
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +0.04 EPA/play (65th percentile vs. 2003 team-game averages)
  • Atlanta Falcons: 12 drives, +8.94 total EPA, 6 scoring drives
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 11 drives, +3.64 total EPA, 5 scoring drives
Who scored touchdowns and field goals

Every touchdown and field goal from official play-by-play.

Touchdowns

  • Atlanta Falcons — A. Crumpler (M. Vick pass) (Q1 0:49)
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers — R. Dudley (Buddy Johnson pass) (Q2 6:39)
  • Atlanta Falcons — B. Finneran (M. Vick pass) (Q2 2:00)
  • Atlanta Falcons — J. Bolden (Q2 1:13)
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers — C. Lee (Buddy Johnson pass) (Q4 11:33)
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers — K. McCardell (Buddy Johnson pass) (Q4 2:31)
  • James Cook IIITampa Bay Buccaneers — James Cook III (Buddy Johnson pass) (Q4 0:34)

Field goals

  • Atlanta Falcons — J. Feely (Q1 9:41)
  • Atlanta Falcons — J. Feely (Q2 0:03)
  • Atlanta Falcons — J. Feely (Q3 3:53)
Quarter by quarter

Quarter-by-quarter recap from live scoring plays.

The opening quarter: Atlanta Falcons won the period 10–0. Atlanta Falcons connected on a field goal from the TB 8 (Q1 9:41) — (9:41) 4-J.Feely 26 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.; Atlanta Falcons found the end zone from the TB 6 (Q1 0:49) — (:49) 7-M.Vick pass to 83-A.Crumpler for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Atlanta Falcons added 1 points from the TB 2 (Q1 0:44) — 4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr..

The second quarter: Atlanta Falcons won the period 17–7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers found the end zone from the ATL 3 (Q2 6:39) — (6:39) 14-B.Johnson pass to 88-R.Dudley for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Tampa Bay Buccaneers added 1 points from the ATL 2 (Q2 6:35) — 7-M.Gramatica extra point is GOOD, Center-66-R.Benjamin, Holder-9-T.Tupa.; Atlanta Falcons found the end zone from the TB 13 (Q2 2:00) — (2:00) 7-M.Vick pass to 86-B.Finneran for 13 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Atlanta Falcons added 1 points from the TB 2 (Q2 1:53) — 4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.; Atlanta Falcons found the end zone from the ATL 64 (Q2 1:13) — (1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.Bolden for 41 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Atlanta Falcons added 1 points from the TB 2 (Q2 1:01) — 4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.; Atlanta Falcons connected on a field goal from the TB 20 (Q2 0:03) — (:03) 4-J.Feely 38 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr..

The third quarter: Atlanta Falcons won the period 3–0. Atlanta Falcons connected on a field goal from the TB 19 (Q3 3:53) — (3:53) 4-J.Feely 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr..

The fourth quarter: Tampa Bay Buccaneers won the period 21–0. Tampa Bay Buccaneers found the end zone from the ATL 3 (Q4 11:33) — (11:33) 14-B.Johnson pass to 82-C.Lee for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. quick look in; Tampa Bay Buccaneers added 1 points from the ATL 2 (Q4 11:27) — 7-M.Gramatica extra point is GOOD, Center-66-R.Benjamin, Holder-9-T.Tupa.; Tampa Bay Buccaneers found the end zone from the ATL 76 (Q4 2:31) — (2:31) 14-B.Johnson pass to 87-K.McCardell for 76 yards, TOUCHDOWN.; Tampa Bay Buccaneers registered a safety from the ATL 2 (Q4 2:20) — TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 14-B.Johnson pass to 86-K.Williams is complete. ATTEMPT SUCCEEDS.; Tampa Bay Buccaneers found the end zone from the ATL 11 (Q4 0:34) — (:34) 14-B.Johnson pass to 43-J.Cook for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN..

Turning points

Plays that moved win probability the most.

  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q4 0:27) — TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 14-B.Johnson pass to 82-C.Lee is incomplete. ATTEMPT FAILS. [WPA -20.6% · EPA -0.95]
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q1 1:45) — (1:45) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 87-K.McCardell INTERCEPTED by 53-K.Newman at TB 41. 53-K.Newman to TB 12 for 29 yards (67-K.Walker). PENALTY on TB-87-K.McCardell, Unnecessary Roughness, 6 yards, [WPA -19.3% · EPA -6.98]
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q2 1:13) — (1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.Bolden for 41 yards, TOUCHDOWN. [WPA -13.9% · EPA -7.99]
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q2 4:02) — (4:02) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 87-K.McCardell INTERCEPTED by 29-K.Carpenter at ATL 32. 29-K.Carpenter to ATL 32 for no gain (87-K.McCardell). Penalty on TB-60-C.Coleman, Offensive Holding, decl [WPA -11.1% · EPA -2.84]
  • Atlanta Falcons (Q2 3:53) — (3:53) 7-M.Vick pass to 81-P.Price to TB 19 for 49 yards (26-D.Smith). [WPA +9.9% · EPA +3.06]
Impact plays

Highest EPA snaps that flipped field position.

  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q2 1:13) — (1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.Bolden for 41 yards, TOUCHDOWN. [WPA -13.9% · EPA -7.99]
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q1 1:45) — (1:45) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 87-K.McCardell INTERCEPTED by 53-K.Newman at TB 41. 53-K.Newman to TB 12 for 29 yards (67-K.Walker). PENALTY on TB-87-K.McCardell, Unnecessary Roughness, 6 yards, [WPA -19.3% · EPA -6.98]
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Q4 2:31) — (2:31) 14-B.Johnson pass to 87-K.McCardell for 76 yards, TOUCHDOWN. [WPA +1.9% · EPA +6.54]
  • Atlanta Falcons (Q4 3:58) — (3:58) 45-T.Duckett right tackle to TB 4 for 4 yards (26-D.Smith). FUMBLES (26-D.Smith), RECOVERED by TB-94-G.Spires at TB 4. 94-G.Spires to TB 4 for no gain (62-T.McClure). Play Challenged by ATL and [WPA -0.5% · EPA -4.79]
Every scoring play

Chronological scoring with play-by-play context.

  1. Atlanta Falcons FG (+3) — Q1 9:41 · TB 8 · Score 3-0
    (9:41) 4-J.Feely 26 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.
  2. Atlanta Falcons TD (+6) — Q1 0:49 · TB 6 · Score 9-0
    (:49) 7-M.Vick pass to 83-A.Crumpler for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
  3. Atlanta Falcons XP (+1) — Q1 0:44 · TB 2 · Score 10-0
    4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.
  4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers TD (+6) — Q2 6:39 · ATL 3 · Score 10-6
    (6:39) 14-B.Johnson pass to 88-R.Dudley for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
  5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers XP (+1) — Q2 6:35 · ATL 2 · Score 10-7
    7-M.Gramatica extra point is GOOD, Center-66-R.Benjamin, Holder-9-T.Tupa.
  6. Atlanta Falcons TD (+6) — Q2 2:00 · TB 13 · Score 16-7
    (2:00) 7-M.Vick pass to 86-B.Finneran for 13 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
  7. Atlanta Falcons XP (+1) — Q2 1:53 · TB 2 · Score 17-7
    4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.
  8. Atlanta Falcons TD (+6) — Q2 1:13 · ATL 64 · Score 23-7
    (1:13) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 82-C.Lee INTERCEPTED by 21-J.Bolden at TB 41. 21-J.Bolden for 41 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
  9. Atlanta Falcons XP (+1) — Q2 1:01 · TB 2 · Score 24-7
    4-J.Feely extra point is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.
  10. Atlanta Falcons FG (+3) — Q2 0:03 · TB 20 · Score 27-7
    (:03) 4-J.Feely 38 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.
  11. Atlanta Falcons FG (+3) — Q3 3:53 · TB 19 · Score 30-7
    (3:53) 4-J.Feely 37 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-D.Rackley, Holder-13-C.Mohr.
  12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers TD (+6) — Q4 11:33 · ATL 3 · Score 30-13
    (11:33) 14-B.Johnson pass to 82-C.Lee for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. quick look in
  13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers XP (+1) — Q4 11:27 · ATL 2 · Score 30-14
    7-M.Gramatica extra point is GOOD, Center-66-R.Benjamin, Holder-9-T.Tupa.
  14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers TD (+6) — Q4 2:31 · ATL 76 · Score 30-20
    (2:31) 14-B.Johnson pass to 87-K.McCardell for 76 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
  15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Safety (+2) — Q4 2:20 · ATL 2 · Score 30-22
    TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. 14-B.Johnson pass to 86-K.Williams is complete. ATTEMPT SUCCEEDS.
  16. Tampa Bay Buccaneers TD (+6) — Q4 0:34 · ATL 11 · Score 30-28
    (:34) 14-B.Johnson pass to 43-J.Cook for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Key takeaways

What to remember for fantasy research and follow-up box score digging.

  • Atlanta Falcons earned the result — use the box score for snap-level context.
  • One-score margin — verify garbage-time stats before drawing fantasy conclusions.
  • K. McCardell (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) led total EPA — start here for highlight and prop research.

Frequently asked questions

Who won Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers on 2003-12-20?

The Atlanta Falcons beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 30-28 in Week 16, 2003.

What was the score by quarter in Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

Q1: Atlanta Falcons 10, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0; Q2: Atlanta Falcons 17, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 7; Q3: Atlanta Falcons 3, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0; Q4: Atlanta Falcons 0, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 21; Final: Atlanta Falcons 30, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 28.

Who scored touchdowns and field goals in Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

Atlanta Falcons touchdown — A. Crumpler (M. Vick pass) (Q1 0:49) Tampa Bay Buccaneers touchdown — R. Dudley (B. Johnson pass) (Q2 6:39) Atlanta Falcons touchdown — B. Finneran (M. Vick pass) (Q2 2:00) Atlanta Falcons touchdown — J. Bolden (Q2 1:13) Tampa Bay Buccaneers touchdown — C. Lee (B. Johnson pass) (Q4 11:33) Tampa Bay Buccaneers touchdown — K. McCardell (B. Johnson pass) (Q4 2:31) Tampa Bay Buccaneers touchdown — J. Cook (B. Johnson pass) (Q4 0:34) Atlanta Falcons field goal — J. Feely (Q1 9:41, 3 pts) Atlanta Falcons field goal — J. Feely (Q2 0:03, 3 pts) Atlanta Falcons field goal — J. Feely (Q3 3:53, 3 pts) Extra points followed each touchdown unless noted in the play-by-play.

How did the quarterbacks play in Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

Buddy Johnson (Tampa Bay Buccaneers), 65.4% completion, +0.06 EPA per dropback, +3.21 total passing EPA. M. Vick (Atlanta Falcons), 53.3% completion, +0.49 EPA per dropback, +7.40 total passing EPA.

Who was FantasyHQ's player of the game in Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

K. McCardell (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) was FantasyHQ's Game MVP with +10.73 total EPA on Receiving plays. across 6 snaps. Their top snap (-6.98 EPA): (1:45) 14-B.Johnson pass intended for 87-K.McCardell INTERCEPTED by 53-K.Newman at TB 41. 53-K.Newman to TB 12 for 29 yards (67-K.Walker). PENALTY on TB-87-K.McCardell, Unnecessary.

Was Atlanta Falcons vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers a close game?

Yes — the margin was 2 points. Atlanta Falcons won 30-28 in a game that came down to the wire.

Season records after this game

Atlanta Falcons

Entered 3-11 Now 4-11 W

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Entered 7-7 Now 7-8 L